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2023 ACCs Day 3 Ups/Mids/Downs: Louisville Women Hold NC State At Bay In Race For 2nd

2023 ACC CHAMPIONSHIPS

For those unfamiliar with swimming terminology, the concept of “Ups” and “Downs” is a good way to track which teams performed best at prelims. In prelims, swimmers qualify for one of three finals heats: the top 8 finishers make the A final, places 9 through 16 the B final and places 17 through 24 the C final. In finals, swimmers are locked into their respective final, meaning a swimmer in the B heat (spots 9-16) can only place as high as 9th or as low as 16th, even if they put up the fastest or slowest time of any heat in the final.

With that in mind, we’ll be tracking “Ups,” “Mids” and “Downs” after each prelims session. “Up” refers to swimmers in the A final, “Mid” to swimmers in the B final and “Down” to swimmers in the C final.

TEAM SCORES THRU DAY 2

Women:

  1. Virginia – 551
  2. Louisville – 473.5
  3. NC State – 427
  4. North Carolina – 386
  5. Virginia Tech – 274
  6. Duke – 257
  7. Notre Dame – 216
  8. Florida State – 213
  9. Miami – 211
  10. Pitt – 163.5
  11. Georgia Tech – 158
  12. Boston College – 100

Men:

  1. NC State – 585
  2. Louisville – 332.5
  3. Virginia – 317
  4. Virginia Tech – 308.5
  5. Notre Dame – 286
  6. Florida State – 263.5
  7. North Carolina – 216
  8. Pitt – 209.5
  9. Georgia Tech – 187
  10. Duke – 133
  11. Miami – 74
  12. Boston College – 64

The Virginia women further distanced themselves from the field during Day 3 prelims at the ACC Championships, putting nine swimmers through to an ‘A’ final with three in each of the 400 IM, 100 fly and 200 free.

As a result of that, the Cavaliers project to outscore the next-best team, Louisville, by 129 points in tonight’s finals session not accounting for diving or relays, putting the race for the title firmly out of reach.

However, the battle for the runner-up spot is very much alive, as Louisville followed up their strong start by essentially holding NC State at bay this morning, as both teams put five women and 12 total individual swims into finals. The Cardinals project to score 193.5 points in these three events tonight, while the Wolfpack are seeded to score 184.

Having come out of Wednesday night up by 46.5 points on NC State, the Louisville women are now seeded to push that advantage to 56 points tonight.

The Cardinals notably put three up in the 100 fly, as Gabi Albiero grabbed the top seed and Christiana Regenauer and Tristen Ulett also secured top-eight spots.

Last season, NC State outscored Louisville by 210.5 points to place second behind UVA, while in 2021, the gap was 310.5 points between the two squads.

Meanwhile, Virginia Tech and Duke are locked in a tight battle for fifth, while UNC clings to fourth for the time being thanks to their strong diving.

DAY 3 UPS/MIDS/DOWNS – WOMEN

Credit to Andrew Mering for running the numbers.

All 400 IM 100 Fly 200 Free
3 mtr Diving
UVA 9/5/0 3/1/0 3/1/0 3/3/0 0/0/0
Louisville 5/4/3 1/2/0 3/0/1 1/2/2 0/0/0
NC State 5/3/4 1/1/2 2/1/1 2/1/1 0/0/0
Duke 2/2/3 2/1/1 0/1/0 0/0/2 0/0/0
VT 2/2/2 0/0/2 0/1/0 2/1/0 0/0/0
GT 1/1/1 1/1/0 0/0/1 0/0/0 0/0/0
Florida St 0/5/2 0/2/0 0/2/2 0/1/0 0/0/0
ND 0/1/3 0/0/2 0/1/1 0/0/0 0/0/0
UNC 0/1/3 0/0/1 0/1/0 0/0/2 0/0/0
Miami 0/0/2 0/0/0 0/0/1 0/0/1 0/0/0
PITT 0/0/1 0/0/0 0/0/1 0/0/0 0/0/0

SCORED PRELIMS — WOMEN

  1. Virginia, 322.5
  2. Louisville, 193.5
  3. NC State, 184
  4. Virginia Tech, 100
  5. Duke, 89
  6. Florida State, 78
  7. Georgia Tech, 44
  8. Notre Dame / UNC, 34
  9. Miami (FL), 5
  10. Pitt, 2

SCORED PRELIM + ACTUAL — WOMEN

  1. Virginia, 873.5
  2. Louisville, 667
  3. NC State, 611
  4. UNC, 420
  5. Virginia Tech, 374
  6. Duke, 346
  7. Florida State, 291
  8. Notre Dame, 250
  9. Miami (FL), 216
  10. Georgia Tech, 202
  11. Pitt, 165.5
  12. Boston College, 100

On the men’s side, NC State has been dominant thus far and that continued in the prelims as the Pack put nine swimmers into ‘A’ finals, including four in the 100 fly.

Virginia Tech, led by Youssef Ramadan (#1 seed in 100 fly) and Keith Myburgh (#2 seed in 400 IM), project to score the second-most points in finals and leapfrog in-state rival UVA for third place and push Louisville for the runner-up position.

Notre Dame, with three ‘A’ finalists including top seed in the 400 IM Jack Hoagland, are now in position to challenge the Cavaliers as well.

A finish in the top five would be significant for the Fighting Irish coming off of their eighth-place showing last season.

DAY 3 UPS/MIDS/DOWNS – MEN

Credit to Andrew Mering for running the numbers.

All 400 IM 100 Fly 200 Free
3 mtr Diving
NC State 9/3/1 2/1/1 4/1/0 3/1/0 0/0/0
VT 5/2/1 2/0/0 2/2/1 1/0/0 0/0/0
Louisville 4/3/2 1/1/0 1/0/1 2/2/1 0/0/0
ND 3/2/7 2/1/2 0/1/2 1/0/3 0/0/0
UVA 1/5/2 0/2/1 1/1/1 0/2/0 0/0/0
UNC 1/3/4 1/1/2 0/1/0 0/1/2 0/0/0
GT 1/1/1 0/1/1 0/0/0 1/0/0 0/0/0
Florida St 0/2/4 0/0/1 0/0/2 0/2/1 0/0/0
Duke 0/1/2 0/0/0 0/1/1 0/0/1 0/0/0
BC 0/1/0 0/1/0 0/0/0 0/0/0 0/0/0
PITT 0/1/0 0/0/0 0/1/0 0/0/0 0/0/0

SCORED PRELIMS — MEN

  1. NC State, 276.5
  2. Virginia Tech, 175
  3. Louisville, 173
  4. Notre Dame, 131.5
  5. Virginia, 106
  6. UNC, 85
  7. Florida State, 51
  8. Georgia Tech, 45.5
  9. Duke, 19.5
  10. Boston College, 12
  11. Pitt, 11

SCORED PRELIM + ACTUAL — MEN

  1. NC State, 861.5
  2. Louisville, 505.5
  3. Virginia Tech, 483.5
  4. Virginia, 423
  5. Notre Dame, 417.5
  6. Florida State, 314.5
  7. UNC, 301
  8. Georgia Tech, 232.5
  9. Pitt, 220.5
  10. Duke, 152.5
  11. Boston College, 76
  12. Miami (FL), 74

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Lovetoswim
1 year ago

Does IV22 mean they are in for NCAA’s ?

misterman
Reply to  Lovetoswim
1 year ago

No. It means they sent a time that would have been invited to NCAAs in 2022

Admin
Reply to  Lovetoswim
1 year ago

It means that they are faster than the time that was invited in 2022. Generally, the invite times get a little faster every year, so it’s not a guarantee, but it’s a good sign.

David
1 year ago

Let’s go hokies!

1 year ago

Let’s go Tar Heels!!!!

K Chilly
1 year ago

The points race between NC State men and UVA women is getting interesting! Who will prove to be a more dominant ACC champion?

Silent Observer
Reply to  K Chilly
1 year ago

Based on Desorbo’s insta story on Tuesday, the UVA W are for sure looking to break the allusive 1500 team pts barrier.

Which NC State M broke/surpassed last year and seems on track to surpass by, even more, this year.

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James Sutherland

James swam five years at Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, specializing in the 200 free, back and IM. He finished up his collegiate swimming career in 2018, graduating with a bachelor's degree in economics. In 2019 he completed his graduate degree in sports journalism. Prior to going to Laurentian, James swam …

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