2023 U.S. NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
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Olympic champion Chase Kalisz is swimming more yards than he ever has before at age 29 and it seems to be working for him. Even though he had ups and downs in training this season as it was his first year back with his age group coach Bob Bowman since 2016, Kalisz made the world champ team in the 400 IM and will swim the event later this month in Fukuoka.
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MA can’t ever catch a break. bros not even apart of this article whatsoever 😭
I don’t believe he is training longer than he ever has….I would say same as always with Bob. If asu is training so much, you would think their distance group would have made a statement last week at Trials. I don’t remember anyone doing much in 800-1500
If he says he is he probably is. ASU doesn’t have 20 Chase Kalisz’s, they only have the one.
You are right. Bob Bowman gave an interview and they train about 6000-6500 in 11/2 hours. They take minimal rest in between sets.
You have to have the athletes to get those type of results. Most of their really good distance freestylers are international.
If you look at any other endurance sport where the best athletes excel into their early 30s. The biggest thing for those sports tends to be racking up a ton of heart contractions to increase left ventricle size which improves EDV. You also see great changes to capillary density, mitochondrial density and function. The intensity has to be closely monitored for athletes, but low intensity volume is much less likely to bury someone than pushing too hard on days that should be easy.
Would we call swimming the 2/4IM an endurance sport/event? I would argue this is more of a sprint, and the same mitochondrial density, stroke volume, and capillary density can be attained through HIIT training, not to mention the other benefits (increase in oxidative enzymes, RFD increase, and buffering capabilities).
The 400 IM is an endurance event, not a sprint. Ask anyone who swims a competitive 400 IM.
It’s really not though. True endurance events are hours long.
There is no quantitative definition of “endurance” or “”true endurance”. However, anyone who doesn’t include endurance training in getting ready compete in a 400 IM is asking for a boatload of pain.
I like to come back to the track comparison on this one (despite obvious huge differences). The 4IM has a longer time domain than an elite 1500. Most of the best 1500 runners also have world class 5k and 10k times suggesting that the bulk of their training is hugely aerobic. MA is a good example that you can have success in the 200 IM as a male with a massive anaerobic focus, but that may not be sustainable over time with how much more CNS stress it elicits. He would also die in some of those races, but I think that had more to do with his pacing and freestyle mechanics than pure fitness.
The argument that Andrew’s fitness is okay-to-elite is a strange one considering he fairly recently set an American record in a 100 LCM event, yet chose not to contest it or to (apparently) really train for it for a World Championships meet.
If the fitness was there you’d think he’d compete in what is his best event.
He knew where he was, clearly.
It is because the 50 fly is on same day as 100 breast. If he made finals in both he would swim 50 fly final, then there is women’s final, then he would swim 100 breast final. The 50 free and 100 fly are also on the same day. His competition Ben Proud and Flo are only swimming the 50’s. They are not using up energy swimming any 100’s. Look at it like this. Ben Proud swims 3×50 fly. MA would have to swim 3×50 fly and 3×100 breast. Flo swims 3×50 free. MA would have to swim 3×50 free and 3×100 fly. Ben and Flo has a huge advantage.
He takin shots at MA
It must BURN that a 50 sprint swimmer beat him royally in the 200 IM at Olympic Trials and at Olympics. Chase is always saying he is training harder than ever. He is just maintaining a 4:08
…says a poster who probably swims a 6:00.00+ 4 IM.
hey im 45 and I’d be happy to go a 6 min. I’d be happy to finish one right now for that matter.
Are you talking 6min long course or short course?
Sustained elite performance in the 4IM ain’t all that easy! Nor is the training required.
Michael Andrew begs to differ….from the stands…
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Brett Hawke punching the air reading this
sprinters gonna sprint
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You’re comparing a swimmer who swims aerobic dominant events, to a swimmer who swims anaerobic dominant events.
Looking at the scientific evidence he should there are 2 ways to mitochondria biogenesis. Short high intensity intervals or continuous swimming.
Yes, but there’s only one way to elicit eccentric ventricular hypertrophy. Anything above 50 beats below maximum heart rate is going to elicit more concentric hypertrophy which is a less important adaption for events with a large aerobic component.
This is not absolute, and your comment neglects the many other cellular, respiratory, nervous system, and skeletal changes that occur as a result of both high/low intensity training. Ventricular hypertrophy is merely one of many systems in play that impact aerobic performance.
This is analogous to taking a 1990s bicycle, putting a new carbon fork on the old bike, and saying that you can now race in the Tour de France.
Some of you are a little obsessed
I find the amount of crap that MA takes in these comments sections to be staggering. Here is a guy that reached ultra-elite status in four Olympic swimming events. This, apparently, is a monumental achievement for anyone….except for MA. Everyone dumping on this guy talks as if the way to elite athletic performance has already been defined for all-time, but this is ridiculous. We are all patient populations of one. We have to find which training method is best for each of us, mentally and physically, and we need to do it within a very short window of opportunity. This is actually impossible for there are too many variables. For MA to try something completely different was brave, or perhaps… Read more »
We all want to see MA train with a real team for a year. My prediction: he would break multiple world records.
he’s a 400 IMer so this a rare case where the volume is needed and beneficial at the age of 29
Can’t imagine any sprinters or mid D doing this kind of distance in their late 20s