All the D1 men’s conference meets have been completed. We know who won the meets. We know who lost. But many swimmers and programs don’t measure success by how their team placed at the meet or if they gained 50 points over last year. Many people just want to go faster. Maybe their top swimmer is injured. Maybe their recruiting class was down this year. Even for top teams, simply dropping time and performing well is enough to make a meet a success. To that end, I’ve attempted to measure who dropped the most time.
Last week I did a similar analysis for D1 women’s conferences.
Methodology
So how do we measure who dropped the most time? It’s a more complicated question than it seems. First the methodology I used.
- Grab every conference and nationals time from the last 4 years
- Find a swimmer’s previous best time in an event at a conference or national meet
- For times at conference meets this year, compare to a swimmer’s previous best conference/nationals time. If there is no previous best time move on
There are pros and cons to this method. By limiting previous best times to conference and nationals, we can be pretty sure that the swimmers baseline time was a rested swim that they were focused on. This means we’re not giving credit to swimmers who pick up a new event for getting way faster when the main explanation for the improvement was a change of focus. (for example, I switched from the 500 to the 200 IM my senior year in college. My 200 IM at conference was a 5.5 second PR, but most of that improvement was because I’d never swum it rested before. My team’s improvement percentage shouldn’t benefit from this. If I had tapered it before, the improvement would have been much smaller. Therefore, this time isn’t included). This method has the downside of leaving out best times achieved at mid season meets, but that’s a small price to pay for relatively clean data.
There are always a few swimmers who enter the 50 and swim obscenely slow times. The most egregious tanking was tossed as outliers. For example, Penn State’s Gunter Cassell swam a 25.57 50 free. His previous best was 21.64, an add of 18%. Clearly something wasn’t on the level here. Either an injury, or saving energy for other events seem plausible (edit: apparently in this case, he was swimming breaststroke). Penn State’s ranking shouldn’t be punished for either, so it’s tossed.
Another flaw is that freshman performing extremely well makes a team do worse in this metric. Fast freshman times mean that swimmer’s baseline times are better, so it’s harder to drop time from them. Also because high school and club times aren’t included, team’s don’t get credit for freshman PR’s. Similarly, slow freshman times followed by fast times later will make a team look good. This isn’t a fatal flaw but it is worth keeping in mind while reviewing this data. Until there’s a single unified database for all swim times, I’m not sure there’s an easy fix to this issue.
Results
On average swimmers dropped .14% from their conference/nationals PR’s at conference meets this year (standard deviation 1.7% median .21%). There were 4357 data points. 2429 were faster or 56%. The data followed a pretty symmetric normal distribution (if anything there’s a slight skew to the right. positive is slower, negative is faster):
The top performing team was Mt St Mary’s which dropped an average of 1.54% on 7 swims. They are a new program with a small number of repeated swims, so an extreme result isn’t surprising. Next was a pair of major conference teams, Texas A&M and Virginia. A&M dropped an average of 1.53% on 37 swims, 84% of their swimmers were faster. Virginia dropped an average of 1.25% on 42 swims, 88% faster. The only other major conference team in the top 10 was NC State who dropped 1.04% on 33 swims, 70% faster. Making these team’s performances more impressive is the fact that among power 5 conference teams in the women’s improvement data Texas A&M were 2nd, NC State were 3rd, and Virginia were 5th. NC State and Virginia each have the same head coach for their men’s and women’s programs, but Texas A&M do not. Jay Holmes coaches the men and Steve Bultman coaches the women. The top men’s and women’s programs did not always line up. The 4th women’s power 5 team, Georgia Tech, were 3rd to last overall among the men with an average add of 1.02%.
Among smaller conference teams, Monmouth, Fairfield, St Bonaventure, GWU, and UCSB were in the top 20 for both genders.
Three of the top eight performing men’s teams came from power 5 conferences. This is in contrast to the women where the top 9 performing teams were from smaller conferences. After the top 8 15 of the next 17 top performing men’s teams were from small conferences, so the trend of those team dominating the top of the rankings is mostly intact here. This trend isn’t surprising as there are quite a few more small conference teams.
While the vast majority of teams fully rested for their conference meets, there are teams (ex Texas) who haven’t fully tapered yet, so this data doesn’t paint a full picture for them. It’s worth noting that Texas added an average of .65% to their conference/nationals PR’s at their conference meet. At their conference meet last year they added an average of .14%. It appears they had a bit less rest this year than last year.
Data
Negative is faster. Positive is slower
School | Average Change | Number of Times | How Many Dropped Time | Conference |
Mt St Marys | -1.54% | 7 | 57% | Northeast Conf |
Texas A&M | -1.53% | 37 | 84% | SEC |
Virginia | -1.25% | 42 | 88% | ACC |
Monmouth | -1.25% | 19 | 89% | MAAC |
Miami Ohio | -1.23% | 33 | 79% | MAC |
Fairfield | -1.21% | 26 | 73% | MAAC |
Wis.- Milwaukee | -1.13% | 22 | 82% | Horizon League |
NC State | -1.04% | 33 | 70% | ACC |
Villanova | -1.03% | 42 | 79% | Big East |
Cal Poly | -0.99% | 32 | 72% | Mountain Pacific |
Princeton | -0.93% | 15 | 87% | Ivy League |
GWU | -0.87% | 42 | 74% | Atlantic 10 |
Florida St | -0.83% | 30 | 70% | ACC |
Yale | -0.79% | 34 | 79% | Ivy League |
UCSB | -0.75% | 54 | 63% | Mountain Pacific |
Wisconsin | -0.74% | 40 | 75% | Big Ten |
St. Bonaventure | -0.73% | 31 | 77% | Atlantic 10 |
Pacific | -0.73% | 37 | 70% | Mountain Pacific |
Howard | -0.73% | 20 | 50% | CCSA |
Maine | -0.72% | 20 | 65% | America East |
Seattle U | -0.69% | 37 | 65% | WAC |
Columbia | -0.69% | 43 | 74% | Ivy League |
Wis.- Green Bay | -0.68% | 33 | 73% | Horizon League |
Air Force | -0.67% | 19 | 79% | WAC |
Canisius | -0.67% | 37 | 73% | MAAC |
Iowa | -0.65% | 48 | 81% | Big Ten |
UNC Wilmington | -0.65% | 30 | 57% | CAA |
Missouri | -0.64% | 36 | 83% | SEC |
Pittsburgh | -0.62% | 21 | 62% | ACC |
Minnesota | -0.59% | 29 | 69% | Big Ten |
Dartmouth | -0.58% | 28 | 79% | Ivy League |
South Dakota | -0.57% | 29 | 59% | The Summit League |
Michigan | -0.53% | 46 | 65% | Big Ten |
Cleveland St | -0.53% | 24 | 71% | Horizon League |
Notre Dame | -0.51% | 33 | 67% | ACC |
St. Louis | -0.50% | 33 | 61% | Atlantic 10 |
Indiana | -0.49% | 33 | 64% | Big Ten |
Kentucky | -0.48% | 29 | 59% | SEC |
Ball State | -0.42% | 31 | 52% | MAC |
Eastern Mich | -0.42% | 39 | 56% | MAC |
George Mason | -0.42% | 29 | 55% | Atlantic 10 |
Towson | -0.38% | 37 | 65% | CAA |
Harvard | -0.38% | 34 | 74% | Ivy League |
Purdue | -0.35% | 43 | 63% | Big Ten |
Virginia MI | -0.34% | 30 | 57% | CCSA |
LSU | -0.32% | 31 | 68% | SEC |
Rider | -0.31% | 42 | 52% | MAAC |
Tennessee | -0.30% | 47 | 51% | SEC |
Missouri St. | -0.30% | 43 | 63% | MAC |
Bryant U | -0.28% | 40 | 65% | MAAC |
Utah | -0.25% | 41 | 59% | Pacific 12 |
Xavier | -0.24% | 33 | 61% | Big East |
La Salle | -0.24% | 31 | 65% | Atlantic 10 |
Drexel | -0.22% | 39 | 56% | CAA |
Valparaiso | -0.22% | 30 | 53% | The Summit League |
SIUC | -0.20% | 45 | 60% | MAC |
Davidson | -0.19% | 39 | 56% | Atlantic 10 |
Lehigh | -0.18% | 27 | 59% | The Patriot League |
Northwestern | -0.18% | 29 | 55% | Big Ten |
Duke | -0.16% | 21 | 67% | ACC |
Arizona | -0.13% | 41 | 66% | Pacific 12 |
Incarnate Word | -0.12% | 42 | 60% | CCSA |
Cincinnati | -0.12% | 29 | 55% | AAC |
Evansville | -0.10% | 37 | 51% | MAC |
Loyola MD | -0.10% | 42 | 52% | The Patriot League |
Ohio St | -0.09% | 40 | 53% | Big Ten |
U.S. Navy | -0.09% | 82 | 54% | The Patriot League |
Holy Cross | -0.08% | 34 | 59% | The Patriot League |
Army | -0.05% | 25 | 44% | The Patriot League |
Louisville | -0.04% | 25 | 60% | ACC |
California | -0.04% | 52 | 50% | Pacific 12 |
West Virginia | -0.02% | 53 | 55% | Big 12 |
Colgate | -0.02% | 26 | 58% | The Patriot League |
Fordham | -0.02% | 33 | 48% | Atlantic 10 |
CSUB | -0.01% | 40 | 55% | WAC |
Boston College | -0.01% | 30 | 43% | ACC |
Brigham Young | 0.01% | 30 | 60% | Mountain Pacific |
American | 0.03% | 17 | 41% | The Patriot League |
South Carolina | 0.04% | 39 | 46% | SEC |
UNLV | 0.07% | 29 | 52% | WAC |
Iona Coll | 0.08% | 42 | 50% | MAAC |
Oakland | 0.11% | 33 | 48% | Horizon League |
Auburn | 0.11% | 33 | 58% | SEC |
Cornell | 0.12% | 28 | 61% | Ivy League |
Michigan St | 0.12% | 44 | 52% | Big Ten |
Arizona St | 0.12% | 25 | 48% | Pacific 12 |
Connecticut | 0.12% | 31 | 61% | AAC |
Georgia | 0.13% | 34 | 56% | SEC |
Denver | 0.14% | 39 | 44% | The Summit League |
Providence | 0.14% | 33 | 52% | Big East |
South Dakota St | 0.15% | 23 | 30% | The Summit League |
Penn | 0.17% | 36 | 44% | Ivy League |
Penn St | 0.18% | 31 | 55% | Big Ten |
Virginia Tech | 0.18% | 23 | 61% | ACC |
Saint Peters | 0.19% | 14 | 43% | MAAC |
Bucknell | 0.20% | 49 | 45% | The Patriot League |
Illinois-Chicago | 0.21% | 21 | 57% | Horizon League |
TCU | 0.23% | 39 | 46% | Big 12 |
Wyoming | 0.23% | 41 | 44% | WAC |
Old Dominion | 0.24% | 14 | 36% | CCSA |
Seton Hall | 0.24% | 48 | 44% | Big East |
Wright State | 0.24% | 28 | 39% | Horizon League |
Stanford | 0.28% | 45 | 47% | Pacific 12 |
Marist | 0.28% | 48 | 46% | MAAC |
Grand Canyon | 0.30% | 32 | 50% | WAC |
William & Mary | 0.30% | 38 | 42% | CAA |
SMU | 0.30% | 43 | 40% | AAC |
Florida | 0.32% | 39 | 33% | SEC |
Eastern Ill | 0.35% | 28 | 39% | The Summit League |
Western Ill | 0.37% | 21 | 43% | The Summit League |
Delaware | 0.40% | 24 | 38% | CAA |
Binghamton | 0.41% | 35 | 34% | America East |
UNC | 0.41% | 28 | 36% | ACC |
St. Francis | 0.43% | 14 | 50% | Northeast Conf |
Lafayette | 0.47% | 24 | 38% | The Patriot League |
East Carolina | 0.48% | 50 | 38% | AAC |
IUPUI | 0.49% | 30 | 40% | Horizon League |
Niagara | 0.53% | 45 | 38% | MAAC |
Manhattan | 0.54% | 12 | 58% | MAAC |
Alabama | 0.59% | 22 | 41% | SEC |
Texas | 0.65% | 53 | 36% | Big 12 |
Southern Cali | 0.66% | 48 | 40% | Pacific 12 |
Boston U | 0.71% | 30 | 30% | The Patriot League |
Gardner-Webb | 0.75% | 44 | 36% | CCSA |
Fla Atlantic | 0.83% | 32 | 34% | CCSA |
Georgetown | 0.84% | 38 | 34% | Big East |
Georgia Tech | 1.02% | 29 | 24% | ACC |
NJIT | 1.15% | 32 | 44% | CCSA |
Massachusetts | 1.25% | 33 | 24% | Atlantic 10 |
So, let’s just say Texas didn’t rest everyone for Big 12s because they made times at their Texas Invite that would get them into NCAAs. Won’t that adversely affect the statistic for them until they get to NCAAs?
Yes. I specifically addressed this in the article.
Who is the genius at Penn State that has the Cassell kid swim breaststroke instead of free?? What is Murphy thinking? Or not?
I mean, while it’s not a common practice it’s been done before. There was relatively no chance he would final in the 50 free, so why not prep for the later Breastroke events?
Agreed. No problem with getting more practice in for a stroke that they have a good chance of finaling in
Virginia had big time drops and 88% dropped time. That pretty much the essence of a team having a great conference meet.
WAHOO-WAH!!!!
UNC…..yikes
Will be interesting to see the results from conference to championship to see if the ones with least improvement at conference have more improvement at NCAA’s, recognizing that the n will be much less for teams and maybe not as telling.
Adjusting the data for seeing that were already under the projected selection point for Nat’s would give a nice picture of how teams did with their full taper kids
I agree. Many swimmers from almost top 5 conference teams didn’t do a fully taper. Maybe do a full season one after NCAAs? see which case teams had swimmers go best times during the season vs last season at championship meets?
Very few teams competitive teams have the luxury of not tapering for Conference. Big 12 chiefly among them because their conference meet is a glorified invitational meet. In Olympic sports, your job is based on Conference performance.
I’m not sure how to interpret this…..maybe it means the teams that dropped time over-rested before their conference meet?
I believe some of the people “sandbagging” the 50 free were actually swimming it breastroke, their best stroke, to prepare for their other events where they have better chances of making an impact.
Fair point. Softened the phrasing a bit.
More to the point, with this being the biggest week in NCAA swimming with lists and invites why call out 1 D1 swimmer. These swimmers have worked themselves beyond measure, in a season that most don’t get an invite to the big event. In a sport that doesn’t truly pay their athletes during or post college ( as other sports do). Every swimmer is scanning these articles for some mere mention of themselves or someone the know, in a positive light. Shame on Swim Swam.
Gunther, NY state remembers their 3 time State champion for the Champion you are.
Finish Strong!
( From someone who doesn’t believe in participation trophies.)
I don’t think what I said about the guy was negative. My point was that Cassel is a good enough swimmer that there was no way he swam a 25 second all out 50 of freestyle at a championship meet. It turns out this was correct. He wasn’t swimming freestyle. Dropping the outlier times like this one is giving swimmers the benefit of the doubt that a totally out of line time is due to extenuating circumstances (like swimming a different stroke) rather than them regressing.
Really cool article