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Who Got Faster? Improvement at D1 Men’s Conference Meets

All the D1 men’s conference meets have been completed. We know who won the meets. We know who lost. But many swimmers and programs don’t measure success by how their team placed at the meet or if they gained 50 points over last year. Many people just want to go faster. Maybe their top swimmer is injured. Maybe their recruiting class was down this year. Even for top teams, simply dropping time and performing well is enough to make a meet a success. To that end, I’ve attempted to measure who dropped the most time.

Last week I did a similar analysis for D1 women’s conferences.

Methodology

So how do we measure who dropped the most time? It’s a more complicated question than it seems. First the methodology I used.

  1. Grab every conference and nationals time from the last 4 years
  2. Find a swimmer’s previous best time in an event at a conference or national meet
  3. For times at conference meets this year, compare to a swimmer’s previous best conference/nationals time. If there is no previous best time move on

There are pros and cons to this method. By limiting previous best times to conference and nationals, we can be pretty sure that the swimmers baseline time was a rested swim that they were focused on.  This means we’re not giving credit to swimmers who pick up a new event for getting way faster when the main explanation for the improvement was a change of focus. (for example, I switched from the 500 to the 200 IM my senior year in college. My 200 IM at conference was a 5.5 second PR, but most of that improvement was because I’d never swum it rested before. My team’s improvement percentage shouldn’t benefit from this. If I had tapered it before, the improvement would have been much smaller. Therefore, this time isn’t included). This method has the downside of leaving out best times achieved at mid season meets, but that’s a small price to pay for relatively clean data.

There are always a few swimmers  who enter the 50 and swim obscenely slow times. The most egregious tanking was tossed as outliers. For example, Penn State’s Gunter Cassell swam a 25.57 50 free. His previous best was 21.64, an add of 18%. Clearly something wasn’t on the level here. Either an injury, or saving energy for other events seem plausible (edit: apparently in this case, he was swimming breaststroke). Penn State’s ranking shouldn’t be punished for either, so it’s tossed.

Another flaw is that freshman performing extremely well makes a team do worse in this metric. Fast freshman times mean that swimmer’s baseline times are better, so it’s harder to drop time from them. Also because high school and club times aren’t included, team’s don’t get credit for freshman PR’s. Similarly, slow freshman times followed by fast times later will make a team look good. This isn’t a fatal flaw but it is worth keeping in mind while reviewing this data. Until there’s a single unified database for all swim times, I’m not sure there’s an easy fix to this issue.

Results

On average swimmers dropped .14% from their conference/nationals PR’s at conference meets this year (standard deviation 1.7% median .21%). There were 4357 data points. 2429 were faster or 56%. The data followed a pretty symmetric normal distribution (if anything there’s a slight skew to the right. positive is slower, negative is faster):

The top performing team was Mt St Mary’s which dropped an average of 1.54% on 7 swims. They are a new program with a small number of repeated swims, so an extreme result isn’t surprising. Next was a pair of major conference teams, Texas A&M and Virginia. A&M dropped an average of 1.53% on 37 swims, 84% of their swimmers were faster. Virginia dropped an average of 1.25% on 42 swims, 88% faster. The only other major conference team in the top 10 was NC State who dropped 1.04% on 33 swims, 70% faster. Making these team’s performances more impressive is the fact that among power 5 conference teams in the women’s improvement data Texas A&M were 2nd, NC State were 3rd, and Virginia were 5th.  NC State and Virginia each have the same head coach for their men’s and women’s programs, but Texas A&M do not. Jay Holmes coaches the men and Steve Bultman coaches the women. The top men’s and women’s programs did not always line up. The 4th women’s power 5 team, Georgia Tech, were 3rd to last overall among the men with an average add of 1.02%.

Among smaller conference teams, Monmouth, Fairfield, St Bonaventure, GWU, and UCSB were in the top 20 for both genders.

Three of the top eight performing men’s teams came from power 5 conferences. This is in contrast to the women where the top 9 performing teams were from smaller conferences. After the top 8 15 of the next 17 top performing men’s teams were from small conferences, so the trend of those team dominating the top of the rankings is mostly intact here.  This trend isn’t surprising as there are quite a few more small conference teams.

While the vast majority of teams fully rested for their conference meets, there are teams (ex Texas) who haven’t fully tapered yet, so this data doesn’t paint a full picture for them.  It’s worth noting that Texas added an average of .65% to their conference/nationals PR’s at their conference meet. At their conference meet last year they added an average of .14%. It appears they had a bit less rest this year than last year.

Data

Negative is faster. Positive is slower

School Average Change Number of Times How Many Dropped Time Conference
Mt St Marys -1.54% 7 57% Northeast Conf
Texas A&M -1.53% 37 84% SEC
Virginia -1.25% 42 88% ACC
Monmouth -1.25% 19 89% MAAC
Miami Ohio -1.23% 33 79% MAC
Fairfield -1.21% 26 73% MAAC
Wis.- Milwaukee -1.13% 22 82% Horizon League
NC State -1.04% 33 70% ACC
Villanova -1.03% 42 79% Big East
Cal Poly -0.99% 32 72% Mountain Pacific
Princeton -0.93% 15 87% Ivy League
GWU -0.87% 42 74% Atlantic 10
Florida St -0.83% 30 70% ACC
Yale -0.79% 34 79% Ivy League
UCSB -0.75% 54 63% Mountain Pacific
Wisconsin -0.74% 40 75% Big Ten
St. Bonaventure -0.73% 31 77% Atlantic 10
Pacific -0.73% 37 70% Mountain Pacific
Howard -0.73% 20 50% CCSA
Maine -0.72% 20 65% America East
Seattle U -0.69% 37 65% WAC
Columbia -0.69% 43 74% Ivy League
Wis.- Green Bay -0.68% 33 73% Horizon League
Air Force -0.67% 19 79% WAC
Canisius -0.67% 37 73% MAAC
Iowa -0.65% 48 81% Big Ten
UNC Wilmington -0.65% 30 57% CAA
Missouri -0.64% 36 83% SEC
Pittsburgh -0.62% 21 62% ACC
Minnesota -0.59% 29 69% Big Ten
Dartmouth -0.58% 28 79% Ivy League
South Dakota -0.57% 29 59% The Summit League
Michigan -0.53% 46 65% Big Ten
Cleveland St -0.53% 24 71% Horizon League
Notre Dame -0.51% 33 67% ACC
St. Louis -0.50% 33 61% Atlantic 10
Indiana -0.49% 33 64% Big Ten
Kentucky -0.48% 29 59% SEC
Ball State -0.42% 31 52% MAC
Eastern Mich -0.42% 39 56% MAC
George Mason -0.42% 29 55% Atlantic 10
Towson -0.38% 37 65% CAA
Harvard -0.38% 34 74% Ivy League
Purdue -0.35% 43 63% Big Ten
Virginia MI -0.34% 30 57% CCSA
LSU -0.32% 31 68% SEC
Rider -0.31% 42 52% MAAC
Tennessee -0.30% 47 51% SEC
Missouri St. -0.30% 43 63% MAC
Bryant U -0.28% 40 65% MAAC
Utah -0.25% 41 59% Pacific 12
Xavier -0.24% 33 61% Big East
La Salle -0.24% 31 65% Atlantic 10
Drexel -0.22% 39 56% CAA
Valparaiso -0.22% 30 53% The Summit League
SIUC -0.20% 45 60% MAC
Davidson -0.19% 39 56% Atlantic 10
Lehigh -0.18% 27 59% The Patriot League
Northwestern -0.18% 29 55% Big Ten
Duke -0.16% 21 67% ACC
Arizona -0.13% 41 66% Pacific 12
Incarnate Word -0.12% 42 60% CCSA
Cincinnati -0.12% 29 55% AAC
Evansville -0.10% 37 51% MAC
Loyola MD -0.10% 42 52% The Patriot League
Ohio St -0.09% 40 53% Big Ten
U.S. Navy -0.09% 82 54% The Patriot League
Holy Cross -0.08% 34 59% The Patriot League
Army -0.05% 25 44% The Patriot League
Louisville -0.04% 25 60% ACC
California -0.04% 52 50% Pacific 12
West Virginia -0.02% 53 55% Big 12
Colgate -0.02% 26 58% The Patriot League
Fordham -0.02% 33 48% Atlantic 10
CSUB -0.01% 40 55% WAC
Boston College -0.01% 30 43% ACC
Brigham Young 0.01% 30 60% Mountain Pacific
American 0.03% 17 41% The Patriot League
South Carolina 0.04% 39 46% SEC
UNLV 0.07% 29 52% WAC
Iona Coll 0.08% 42 50% MAAC
Oakland 0.11% 33 48% Horizon League
Auburn 0.11% 33 58% SEC
Cornell 0.12% 28 61% Ivy League
Michigan St 0.12% 44 52% Big Ten
Arizona St 0.12% 25 48% Pacific 12
Connecticut 0.12% 31 61% AAC
Georgia 0.13% 34 56% SEC
Denver 0.14% 39 44% The Summit League
Providence 0.14% 33 52% Big East
South Dakota St 0.15% 23 30% The Summit League
Penn 0.17% 36 44% Ivy League
Penn St 0.18% 31 55% Big Ten
Virginia Tech 0.18% 23 61% ACC
Saint Peters 0.19% 14 43% MAAC
Bucknell 0.20% 49 45% The Patriot League
Illinois-Chicago 0.21% 21 57% Horizon League
TCU 0.23% 39 46% Big 12
Wyoming 0.23% 41 44% WAC
Old Dominion 0.24% 14 36% CCSA
Seton Hall 0.24% 48 44% Big East
Wright State 0.24% 28 39% Horizon League
Stanford 0.28% 45 47% Pacific 12
Marist 0.28% 48 46% MAAC
Grand Canyon 0.30% 32 50% WAC
William & Mary 0.30% 38 42% CAA
SMU 0.30% 43 40% AAC
Florida 0.32% 39 33% SEC
Eastern Ill 0.35% 28 39% The Summit League
Western Ill 0.37% 21 43% The Summit League
Delaware 0.40% 24 38% CAA
Binghamton 0.41% 35 34% America East
UNC 0.41% 28 36% ACC
St. Francis 0.43% 14 50% Northeast Conf
Lafayette 0.47% 24 38% The Patriot League
East Carolina 0.48% 50 38% AAC
IUPUI 0.49% 30 40% Horizon League
Niagara 0.53% 45 38% MAAC
Manhattan 0.54% 12 58% MAAC
Alabama 0.59% 22 41% SEC
Texas 0.65% 53 36% Big 12
Southern Cali 0.66% 48 40% Pacific 12
Boston U 0.71% 30 30% The Patriot League
Gardner-Webb 0.75% 44 36% CCSA
Fla Atlantic 0.83% 32 34% CCSA
Georgetown 0.84% 38 34% Big East
Georgia Tech 1.02% 29 24% ACC
NJIT 1.15% 32 44% CCSA
Massachusetts 1.25% 33 24% Atlantic 10

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SwimCoachDad
6 years ago

So, let’s just say Texas didn’t rest everyone for Big 12s because they made times at their Texas Invite that would get them into NCAAs. Won’t that adversely affect the statistic for them until they get to NCAAs?

Andrew Mering
Reply to  SwimCoachDad
6 years ago

Yes. I specifically addressed this in the article.

PSU Alum
6 years ago

Who is the genius at Penn State that has the Cassell kid swim breaststroke instead of free?? What is Murphy thinking? Or not?

Welllllll
Reply to  PSU Alum
6 years ago

I mean, while it’s not a common practice it’s been done before. There was relatively no chance he would final in the 50 free, so why not prep for the later Breastroke events?

Stooooppppp
Reply to  Welllllll
6 years ago

Agreed. No problem with getting more practice in for a stroke that they have a good chance of finaling in

marklewis
6 years ago

Virginia had big time drops and 88% dropped time. That pretty much the essence of a team having a great conference meet.

WahooWah
Reply to  marklewis
6 years ago

WAHOO-WAH!!!!

UNC…..yikes

Ann Fairey
6 years ago

Will be interesting to see the results from conference to championship to see if the ones with least improvement at conference have more improvement at NCAA’s, recognizing that the n will be much less for teams and maybe not as telling.

JimSwim
6 years ago

Adjusting the data for seeing that were already under the projected selection point for Nat’s would give a nice picture of how teams did with their full taper kids

Stooooppppp
Reply to  JimSwim
6 years ago

I agree. Many swimmers from almost top 5 conference teams didn’t do a fully taper. Maybe do a full season one after NCAAs? see which case teams had swimmers go best times during the season vs last season at championship meets?

Eddie Rowe
Reply to  JimSwim
6 years ago

Very few teams competitive teams have the luxury of not tapering for Conference. Big 12 chiefly among them because their conference meet is a glorified invitational meet. In Olympic sports, your job is based on Conference performance.

gator
6 years ago

I’m not sure how to interpret this…..maybe it means the teams that dropped time over-rested before their conference meet?

Cmon
6 years ago

I believe some of the people “sandbagging” the 50 free were actually swimming it breastroke, their best stroke, to prepare for their other events where they have better chances of making an impact.

Camille
Reply to  Cmon
6 years ago

More to the point, with this being the biggest week in NCAA swimming with lists and invites why call out 1 D1 swimmer. These swimmers have worked themselves beyond measure, in a season that most don’t get an invite to the big event. In a sport that doesn’t truly pay their athletes during or post college ( as other sports do). Every swimmer is scanning these articles for some mere mention of themselves or someone the know, in a positive light. Shame on Swim Swam.

Gunther, NY state remembers their 3 time State champion for the Champion you are.
Finish Strong!
( From someone who doesn’t believe in participation trophies.)

Andrew Mering
Reply to  Camille
6 years ago

I don’t think what I said about the guy was negative. My point was that Cassel is a good enough swimmer that there was no way he swam a 25 second all out 50 of freestyle at a championship meet. It turns out this was correct. He wasn’t swimming freestyle. Dropping the outlier times like this one is giving swimmers the benefit of the doubt that a totally out of line time is due to extenuating circumstances (like swimming a different stroke) rather than them regressing.

Jmanswimfan
6 years ago

Really cool article

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