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Scoring Out The Olympics With The NCAA Format: Through Day 5

2024 PARIS SUMMER OLYMPIC GAMES

From a macro perspective, medals are the be-all and end-all in quantifying success at the Olympic Games, but we all know an athlete or nation can flourish even if it means they don’t ultimately make it onto the podium.

Thanks to Michael White, the head coach and CEO of Storm Aquatics in Wisconsin, we’re able to see how the standings in the 2024 Olympic pool swimming competition would look if we used the same scoring format we see at several domestic meets, including the NCAA Championships.

See the standings after Day 3 here.

Scoring Format

  • 16-place scoring system: 20-17-16-15-14-13-12-11-9-7-6-5-4-3-2-1
  • Relays are worth double points
  • 9th through 16th-place finishers come from semi-finals
  • If semi-finalist who missed final was faster than someone in the final, that was corrected

WOMEN’S RANKINGS

Rank Country Points
1 United States 259.5
2 Australia 218
3 China 156
4 Canada 132
5 France 85
6 Great Britain 71
7 Sweden 70
8 Italy 67.5
9 Germany 59
10 Netherlands 46
11 Japan 45
12 Brazil 41
13 Hong Kong 36
14 New Zealand 32
15 Ireland 30
16 South Africa 28
17 Hungary 26
18 Belgium 23
18 Czech Republic 23
20 Spain 14

MEN’S RANKINGS

Rank Country Points
1 United States 204.5
2 Australia 166
3 Italy 155
4 Germany 143
5 China 131
6 Great Britain 117.5
7 France 113.5
8 Hungary 82
9 Japan 69
10 Canada 50
11 Netherlands 40
12 South Korea 39
13 Poland 36.5
14 Romania 36
15 Brazil 35
16 Spain 32
17 Greece 28
18 Tunisia 24
19 Lithuania 20.5
20 Ireland 20

COMBINED RANKINGS

Rank Country Points
1 United States 464
2 Australia 384
3 China 287
4 Italy 222.5
5 Germany 202
6 France 198.5
7 Great Britain 188.5
8 Canada 182
9 Japan 114
10 Hungary 108
11 Netherlands 86
12 Sweden 79
13 Brazil 76
14 Ireland 50
15 Spain 46
16 New Zealand 45
17 Poland 44.5
18 South Africa 42
18 South Korea 39
20 Romania 37

Observations:

  • The United States led for men and women after three days, and they’ve extended the advantage after two more nights despite Katie Ledecky being their only gold medalist on Day 4 or 5.
  • The gold medals have been relatively spread out thus far, with 12 nations winning at least one of the 20 events thus far. Australia, USA, France and Italy are the only countries with multiple golds.
  • Despite Leon Marchand‘s three wins, the French women are actually outperforming the men in terms of ranking using this scoring system, sitting 5th compared to 7th for the men (though the men have more points).
  • The French women have moved up from 9th to 5th in two days thanks to a silver medal from Anastasiia Kirpichnikova in the 1500 free and finals appearances from Emma Terebo and Beryl Gastaldello in the 100 back.
  • The women’s side has a clear top four in the U.S., Australia, China and Canada, while the men is more evenly dispersed between the top seven.
  • The German men continue to surprise, sitting in 4th with 143 points, ahead of China, with recent performances including finals appearances from Josha Salchow in the 100 free, Sven Schwarz in the 800 free, and the men’s 800 free relay.

Additionally, we’ve got the countries ranked based on the size of their population:

WOMEN’S SCORES BY POPULATION

MEN’S TEAM SCORES BY POPULATION

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IU Swammer
3 months ago

I don’t agree with “correcting” the scoring by moving a faster semifinal swim ahead of a slower finals swim. If a swimmer got 9th in semis, they should get 9th place points.

1500m Free Semifinals
Reply to  IU Swammer
3 months ago

Should only consider an exception if a swimmer placing 1st through 8th in semis elects to scratch the final and 9th gets bumped up.

SteveT
3 months ago

Would love to see the analysis of US-trained athletes vs Aus vs UK vs etc. that would be an eye-opener

Current coach
3 months ago

See? We would have won

danjohnrob
3 months ago

Using this scoring system to compare the US to China might make sense, but comparing the US to Australia with a scoring system based upon depth is like comparing Texas against Amherst College! Of course Australia doesn’t have the depth that the US has; what makes them so remarkable is the way they have developed the talented athletes they have, not the sheer number of top level athletes they have.

OTS
Reply to  danjohnrob
3 months ago

Depth not as much a factor when you can only take two swimmers per event.

IU Swammer
Reply to  danjohnrob
3 months ago

This is an unfair comparison for Australia since they have such high qualifying standards. They would definitely have several more semifinalists if they brought everyone who made the Olympic minimum standard. Australia has depth, they just leave it at home.

But this is still a fun comparison, even though it is kinda meaningless.

Last edited 3 months ago by IU Swammer
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Reply to  danjohnrob
3 months ago

You ruin your own argument. Pretty sure Texas would have a 1-2-3 sweep of Amherst College in both Men and Women

About James Sutherland

James Sutherland

James swam five years at Laurentian University in Sudbury, Ontario, specializing in the 200 free, back and IM. He finished up his collegiate swimming career in 2018, graduating with a bachelor's degree in economics. In 2019 he completed his graduate degree in sports journalism. Prior to going to Laurentian, James swam …

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