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SWIMSWAM BREAKDOWN LIVE | 2024 US Olympic Trials Review

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THEO
2 months ago

I don’t think that we are talking enough about how in the men’s 2breast final, 7 of the 8 swimmers have a lifetime PB equivalent or better than the second place time that ended up making the team. That’s 5 swimmers who have a true heartbreaking feeling, missing their only shot at the team and one where they have the PBs to prove they coulda done it.

Truly as brutal as it gets. I cannot think of any other race like that at the meet where basically the entire final had PBs good enough to qualify if they just did them on the day.

Chas
2 months ago

IU female assistant coach in the mix for staffs!

James Beam
2 months ago

great recap! I agree with the comments about Brendan, he was very knowledgeable. I would bring him back!

Swamtoday
2 months ago

Anyone else wonder if Weinstein’s last couple 50’s of that 400 fell off so much because she realized she wouldn’t make it and conserved energy for later races?

Outside Smoke
Reply to  Swamtoday
2 months ago

I think it could simply have been the case that she underestimated Ledecky’s prelim pace. We were all pretty shocked when she swam sub-4:00. If she paced off of a 4:02-4:04 Ledecky that opening 200 would have been far more reserved.

swimlikeafish
2 months ago

Do extra coaches get to attend training camp? Or do the athletes without their primary coach have to remotely communicate?

Admin
Reply to  swimlikeafish
2 months ago

It kind of ebbs and flows. Sometimes they do, sometimes they don’t, sometimes they sneak a whole extra coach on staff and then demand that nobody talk about it.

There’s no real consistency or transparency to it.

Someone told me that one coach not on staff, but who put an athlete on the team, was told they could go and watch from the stands.

swimlikeafish
Reply to  Braden Keith
2 months ago

I get not wanting extra cooks in the kitchen for relays, but I can’t see why you wouldn’t want Ray Looze, Wyatt Collins, and Herbie training their athletes up to the games

chickenlamp
Reply to  swimlikeafish
2 months ago

There were pics showing that Jake Shrum and Whitney Hite had a locker in the gear drop yesterday, so they presumably will be at the NC training camp at least. Wouldn’t surprise me if there’s a couple more extra coaches

Southerly Buster
2 months ago

Coleman, you have overlooked a possible spoiler candidate to take the #2 all-time Olympic swimming medals title, Emma McKeon of Australia. Ledecky is obviously favourite to take that title, very likely to get 4 medals.

But McKeon starts this Olympics one ahead of her on 11 medals and is very likely to get at least 2 medals – the 4×100 Free and womens medley relay. That gives her at least 13 medals. She is #5 in 100 Fly (season rankings) but with her shoulder soreness setback at Trials it’s looking harder for her to grab a medal in that event although not out of the question.

At Fukuoka McKeon was given a prelims swim in the mixed medley relay and if that happens again… Read more »

Coleman Hodges
Reply to  Southerly Buster
2 months ago

This is a great point!

…But perhaps also YOU overlooked the first two minutes of this podcast where I explicitly said this was only about USA😉

Southerly Buster
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

I still think when assessing Ledecky’s chances of becoming No. 2 all-time medallist it’s fair to mention that someone else is in the race for that title and could make it a ‘sink’ rather than a ‘swim’ for Katie.

Anyway, I listen with interest to the Breakdowns and I do enjoy your contributions to SwimSwam.

Sam
Reply to  Southerly Buster
2 months ago

Who gives a good cahoot about McKeon’s medal numbers vs Ledecky’s? McKeon has won a grand total of two individual races in the Olympics/World Championships combined (both because of a Sarah Sjostrom injury) while Ledecky has won 22 individual events, plus 12 US Olympic Trials races. You really think there is an equivalency there or a concern of Ledecky to keep pace with others’ total medals?

Southerly Buster
Reply to  Sam
2 months ago

Who gives a cahoot about who will have the most Olympic medals after Paris?

Coleman Hodges, David Clossey and Brendan Burns that’s who. They thought it important enough to have a ‘Sink or Swim’ segment about it. NBC seem to think overall medals tallies are the most important measure so they must give a cahoot.

Emma McKeon was brilliant at Tokyo 51.96 and 23.81 were worthy gold medal times. Nobody had swum sub-52 for 4 years before or 3 years since Mckeon’s 51.96. Nobody was going to beat her that day.

Sub13
Reply to  Coleman Hodges
2 months ago

If that’s the case, then why did you talk about Kaylee McKeown when you were assessing Regan’s chances of winning the 100 back? Because she was relevant to whether Regan will win the 100 back?

Same principle kind of applies here.

Southerly Buster
Reply to  Sub13
2 months ago

Yes I would have thought so.

chickenlamp
2 months ago

Brendan was great, bring him back on the Breakdown again in the future!

Alastair Lawrie
2 months ago

Interesting discussion re Ledecky and total number of medals post-Paris at the end. And yes, she should at least reach 13 and likely even 14 by the conclusion of the meet. But that may still only put her equal second in terms of medals won, noting that McKeon is sitting on 11, and while her form from trials suggests she isn’t currently on track to medal in the 100 fly, she could still swim 1 (women’s medley), 2 (4×100 free, although noting the conflict with her 100 fly) or even 3 (depending on the combination Australia uses for prelims for the mixed medley) relays and Australia has a chance in all three of those (admittedly to varying degrees).

About Coleman Hodges

Coleman Hodges

Coleman started his journey in the water at age 1, and although he actually has no memory of that, something must have stuck. A Missouri native, he joined the Columbia Swim Club at age 9, where he is still remembered for his stylish dragon swim trunks. After giving up on …

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