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The Distance Revolution, AUS & China’s Big Swims, and Practice Times | SWIMSWAM BREAKDOWN

This week on the SwimSwam Breakdown, we discuss the distance revolution, Australia and China’s speed in the long course pool, and how we should be timing practice swims.

  • 0:00 SwimSwam Breakdown Introduction
  • 0:25 Katie Grimes, Luka Mijatovic, Claire Weinstein, and Luke Ellis spearhead the Distance Revolution
  • 10:39 The Olympic Trials Tickets Situation
  • 18:40 Big Swims in Australia & China
  • 25:10 Analyzing Australia’s Roster for the 2024 Doha World Champs

SINK or SWIM

  • 30:47 After Swimming 2:20.3 in the 200 Breast, will Tatjana Schoenmaker repeat as Olympic champ?
  • 34:37 Should practice times be timed starting when an athlete’s feet leave the wall?
  • 38:37 Which Rio 2016 Champ is most likely to reclaim gold in Paris: Kyle Chalmers, Ryan Murphy, or Greg Paltrinieri?

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Mike C
10 months ago

I finally had time to listen to the podcast.

Ug. Swimmers prove agin they are the some of the worst business people on earth with ticket pricing for trails:
1) they increase number of tickets with larger capacity stadium then then raise prices – ever hear of scarcity and supply and demand driving pricing?
2) they alienate their best customers – the ones who bought early by providing discounts to folks who wait thus creating a penalty for buying early

Though I was not in on these decisions, my guess is they rented the larger facility at greater cost, which drove ticket prices to increase, since they calculated only a marginal increase on total attendance.

I have been… Read more »

Sub13
10 months ago

Lol just realised the title of this podcast is a snipe at Brett Hawke. Love the shade

Emily Se-Bom Lee
Reply to  Sub13
10 months ago

coleman: welcome to the swimswam podcast. today’s guest is olympic champ and 2-time world champion, ahmed hafnaoui. ahmed, you got pretty close to some WRs. can you talk to me about how you did it?

ahmed: I exclusively swam 2km time trials and 30×100 on 1:30

thezwimmer
Reply to  Emily Se-Bom Lee
10 months ago

Brett and his fellow #sprintrevolution would never admit it, but a distance swimmer doing 30×100 on 1:30 at race speed is exactly what he has been preaching about swimming fast in practice, just appropriately adjusted for a distance swimmer.

But many of these #sprintrevolution folks have tunnel vision when it comes to training, and they would see 30×100 and just dismiss it right then and there.

whoisthis
10 months ago

distance revolution is here and i love it especially as a distance swimmer myself

Steve Nolan
10 months ago

Also I wish we got some talk about that women’s gold reclamation poll.

jess
Reply to  Steve Nolan
10 months ago

Yeah there are a couple good ones that certain are within the same realm of reasons as the mens examples ie,
Lilly King 100 breast
Simone Manuel 100 free (well i can dream) (Is Penny Oleksiak healthy idk, lets have a repeat tie)
+ ledecky 200/400 free but i feel thats more unlikely but you never know

Steve Nolan
Reply to  jess
10 months ago

Yeah I think King’s prolly the most likely? As far as I remember she was still p good last year. (Though with breaststrokers ya never know, could just fall off a cliff.)

And I give Manuel a bigger shot than most, it’s not like she was ever really a huge favorite before.

I think Ledecky and Sjostrom have slim odds of even entering those events, let alone winning. And then Belmonte seems only slightly more likely than Hosszu to reclaim some golds.

Joshua Liendo-Edwards-Smith
Reply to  Steve Nolan
10 months ago

Manuel is ranked 7th in the US this year. She may not have been a favourite any of the years she won but it would be quite shock for her to repeat.

Steve Nolan
Reply to  Joshua Liendo-Edwards-Smith
10 months ago

I’m not putting much stock in that, just given her trajectory in the last year it’s trending well enough.

Though you’re right, there’s much more competition for those spots than in years past, but if she makes it onto the team individually? Hoo boy.

Steve Nolan
10 months ago

I think the “coaches watch” fervor is for when they start timing when a swimmer’s feet passes the T on the bottom of the pool, or in certain extreme cases, basically the flags.

It doesn’t matter how the hell you do it as long as it’s consistent.

Track races are started with a gun. NFL 40s are started whenever the runner takes off. They are different, but it’s the same every time.

AJC in BOS
10 months ago

Was there a Swimswam article about the Aussie roster for worlds?

AJC in BOS
Reply to  Emily Se-Bom Lee
10 months ago

Thank you…missed it.

Sub13
10 months ago

Coleman said you weren’t initially planning to have a podcast this week but I’m glad you had one. I want one every week (I’ll give you next week off). Don’t want to speak for everyone else, but honestly my favourite content is just people talking about swimming. Even more interesting than swimmer interviews.

“Swimming is great but it’s not Taylor Swift”. Hilarious and true. I went to short course worlds in Melbourne last year and tickets were just over $60. That’s about $40USD. $200+ for trials is absurd.

Temple and Williamson were also the highlights for me lately. Like, still nowhere winning the men’s medley relay but does open the door for mixed medley.

As someone else pointed out, Jenna… Read more »

Andy
Reply to  Sub13
10 months ago

Depends on who other countries like China and GB send to worlds but I feel even with all their big guns (minus McEvoy in 50 free) skipping, they’ll have enough depth to do well, particularly on the women’s side. Like USA only has 5 women attending so will they even bother fielding any relays (knowing all but 1 person would also have to swim heats)?

Sub13
Reply to  Andy
10 months ago

True. Australian women have legitimate shots at all the relays and mixed relays. Men not so much.

But yeah depends so much on final roster. Predictions will be fun once we know more. Like, Curzan, Douglass and Grimes could win 7 individual golds between them in a weak field. Or in a strong field could win 1-2. So hard to judge yet

Swammer
10 months ago

Titmus had surgery and missed training time so it’s not surprising she is skipping Doha.

Sub13
Reply to  Swammer
10 months ago

I doubt she would have gone anyway but yeah there was no way she was going after all that happened

About Coleman Hodges

Coleman Hodges

Coleman started his journey in the water at age 1, and although he actually has no memory of that, something must have stuck. A Missouri native, he joined the Columbia Swim Club at age 9, where he is still remembered for his stylish dragon swim trunks. After giving up on …

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